394: Breaking the 92% Failure Rate: How to Create Lasting Change w/ Molly Claire

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Courtney Townley 0:01
Are you tired of starting down the path to change with enthusiasm, only to end up in a face plant a few months later? Well, in today’s episode of the Grace and Grit podcast, I am joined by master coach, mentor Molly Claire, who is going to help you uncover why 92% of people fail at creating lasting behavior change in their life, and more importantly, she is going to share with us how you can be a part of the successful 8%.

Courtney Townley 0:28
If you are a high responsibility woman juggling a lot of different priorities while you’re also trying to transform your health or your relationships or your career, do not miss this conversation.

Courtney Townley 0:41
Welcome to the Grace and Grit podcast made for women who want their healthiest years to be ahead of them, not behind them. Join your host Courtney Townley right now as she breaks down the fairy tale health story you have been chasing all of your life in dissensible action steps and lasting change.

Courtney Townley 1:02
Hello my friends, and welcome to the Grace and Grit podcast. My name is Courtney Townley, and I am delighted that you’re here. I’m also really excited for today’s conversation with master coach, mentor, Molly Claire, if you have been following the Grace and Grit podcast for any length of time, you probably know by now that I am deeply passionate about teaching the real skill sets of lasting behavior change, which goes way beyond quick fixes and surface level solutions. In fact, we don’t talk about those things here.

Courtney Townley 1:40
Molly Claire is a best selling author. She is a awesome podcaster in her own right, and she is the founder of the masterful coach collective, where she trains master coaches, entrepreneurs and leaders to implement what she calls the four fundamentals of lasting change. I also want to mention that Molly has a new book coming out called She Rises, which you can find out all the details of by going to the page where this podcast is housed on the Grace and Grit website, and she’ll be telling you more about that at the end of the show today.

Courtney Townley 2:18
She co-authored this book with 12 of the coaches that have gone through her program. So it is packed with valuable insight, and I know it is going to help an awful lot of people. What I love about Molly’s approach is her unwavering belief that success doesn’t have to be either or when it comes to building a business and leading a successful life you can do both. And Molly is really such a great example of being able to do that. She is a proud mom of three. She embodies the integration of meaningful work and life that so many of us strive for. Her framework beautifully aligns with the work that we so often talk about here on the show, and that it’s really not rooted in willpower or motivation, right? There’s a lot more to sustainable behavior change than that. So I’m really excited for this conversation. I don’t want to waste a lot of time with the intro, because we have so much to get to. So let’s dive in.

Courtney Townley 3:20
Hi Molly. Welcome to the Grace and Grit podcast.

Molly Claire 3:27
Hello. Thank you for having me. I’m, I’m just, I’m really excited to be here.

Courtney Townley 3:32
Oh, I’m so happy to have you here. And I’m really, I too, am excited for this conversation, because I think there’s so much crossover in the type of work that we teach, and that’s always fun to have a conversation with someone who is also passionate about these things. So before we get started, obviously, I’ve already told listeners a little bit about you in the intro, but can you tell us a little bit about the work that you do in the world specifically, and also how you came into it?

Molly Claire 3:57
Yes, sure. So what I do right now is I really focus on training coaches and master coaches, essentially helping mostly women come to my community to be trained, and I’m really helping them to understand how to first know themselves, sort of master themselves, master their lives and integrate meaningful change and transformation, and then, of course, being able to help others to do that. So, you know, that’s kind of the the sound bite of that and and really, you know, to what you were speaking to a few minutes ago. I think our work is very aligned. Because I think that, you know, when we we think about, you know, mastering our life or achieving our accomplishment. We can have this, this old script about what that looks like, right, of pushing harder, or, you know, just many of the things you speak to and the work that I really do, that I’m training my coaches to do, and hopefully really impacting just, you know, millions of women, is what I hope is to. So to help each of us to feel more confident and secure in our own skin and know ourselves and be able to lead our lives with authenticity.

Courtney Townley 5:08
Yeah. So that’s the name of the game, isn’t it?

Molly Claire 5:10
That’s what I’m about. So, yeah.

Courtney Townley 5:13
So how did you land here? Like, what got you into coaching work, first and foremost, and what just kind of spurred that evolution?

Molly Claire 5:19
Yeah. I mean, there’s so much, right? So I’ll try to give like the

Courtney Townley 5:23
I know it’s a loaded question,

Molly Claire 5:25
Right? How do you put the last, you know, 46 years of my life into, you know, a sound bite. But you know, when I found coaching, I found coaching a little over a decade ago, and I was at a time in my life where I had always been someone who was, you know, very responsible, very achievement focused, trying to do a good job in my life, trying to do the right thing, trying to, you know, just do all the things as we do as women. And I was at a point in my life where I was struggling with chronic fatigue syndrome. I had, you know, three kids at the time.

Molly Claire 6:01
I believe, when I found coaching, I guess my oldest was like 11 ish 12, and my marriage had been a struggle for a long time, and was especially struggling and and I was dealing with some depression. You know, when you when you’re hit with chronic fatigue and your physical health is struggling and you’re overwhelmed, it’s, it’s, it can be a lot. So I was at this interesting time that I think really forced me to look at some things inside that I just hadn’t really seen or faced or realized were there.

Molly Claire 6:31
And you know, my coaching journey began with me experiencing coaching and my eyes being open to new ways of thinking about everything and possibility. And then pretty soon, when I say pretty soon, I mean, like, I had this coaching experience, and thought, one day I want to do this when I’m in a better place in life. I want to be a coach. And yet, it was within just a few months of that that, you know, an opening came up in this program, and it was being taught by the founder of The Life Coach School. And I was like, Okay, I’m doing this.

Molly Claire 7:03
So, you know, long story short, I dove into being a coach, started helping individuals. I wrote my book, I had my own one to one coaching program, but then I was also simultaneously doing contract work to train coaches and understand more about how to really master the skills of being a fantastic coach. And so as I was doing these two things right, coaching individuals and building my own business, I was supporting others and doing the same and and cultivating their coaching skills and and really, over time, what, what this, what came about for me was, in some ways, flipping on its head what I had previously learned about becoming a coach and and really integrating some of my own methodology and also the the different modalities and methods and schools of thought that really help coaches to be the most effective.

Molly Claire 8:03
And I’m just, I’m really passionate about about doing that and and especially seeing the transformation in in my coaches that I work with, and how it enhances their life and and their clients. So that was a mouthful, but I love it.

Courtney Townley 8:17
It’s so great. Yeah, and I love, I love what you said there, too, about just kind of having the heart for helping coaches to become effective coaches, because the coaching industry has become so loud. I mean, it’s just there’s so it’s just become a very large C, and it’s easy to get lost within it. And I think there’s also this very fine line between teaching and instructing and coaching, and sometimes those lines get really fuzzy, and it almost like I find one of the frustrations with coaching, at least what I see from the outside is there’s a lot of sort of telling people what to do, and this is something I push back against a lot in my work, right?

Courtney Townley 8:57
We’re not letting people access their own knowing and lead themselves, which to me, is really the essence of coaching. So I love that you’re kind of helping get in there and help coaches with that work, because it’s so important, and it’s such a strong distinction between telling someone what to do and just really helping guide someone to find the right decision for themselves. So I love that, that you’re doing that that you’re doing that work. And I also just want to speak to the fact that in that intro, you becoming hyper aware that you were missing tools. You were missing skill sets. As a woman with a lot of responsibility and a lot going on in her life and having to face what wasn’t working, and that’s never easy, yeah. And that’s really what we’re inviting a lot of our clients to do, right is face what isn’t easy,

Molly Claire 9:46
yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of it, we really don’t know, we don’t understand. I can genuinely say that I pretty much every step of the way in my life, I’ve been doing the best I could. With what I knew and what absolutely and so it’s like we don’t even realize what’s missing. And I mean, specific to the part of the work I’m most passionate about is as women, we don’t realize where we’re disconnected from our own emotions. We don’t even understand what our emotional needs are and how to advocate for themselves, for them both, like to ourselves, within how we treat ourselves and in our relationship. So there’s just, there’s so much to learn, I think, and it’s really a beautiful thing, because I think every one of us can have access to a more whole, peaceful experience of life. Yeah.

Courtney Townley 10:40
I mean, that’s really the offer, right? That’s the invitation. And who doesn’t want that? Like, I’m always saying, you know, being able to put your head on the pillow at night, feeling at peace with how you showed up in your day. Like, that’s really, that’s really the goal.

Molly Claire 10:54
It’s worth so much, right? And how many are not having that, are not doing that, you know, right? Absolutely, I can say for myself, I think about, you know, year after year, especially in, you know, in motherhood and feeling like, you know, where am I falling short? What can I do more? Just just this, just this constant demands that we put on ourselves? And I just, I think we’re, I think too many of us are missing the boat in really having the peace and strong sense of self that’s available to us.

Courtney Townley 11:26
Absolutely, I could not agree more. So at the core of our work, both what you and I teach, there’s a lot of talk about lasting change, right? Yeah, we both have a heart for that work. So can you tell us a little bit more specifically about your approach, because I know there’s four parts to the work that you do, and I would love you to share them with listeners.

Molly Claire 11:46
Yeah, yeah. So, so the four, the four fundamentals of lasting change that I teach and I train my coaches to work with their clients on, are number one, mind mastery. And I’ll like name these off, and then we can dip into them a little bit too. So number one is mind mastery. Number two is emotional resiliency, which I’ll define what that means. Four is nervous system regulation. And then the fourth one is having the type of action plans and strategies that are actually going to work. Because we all know we can have a plan, but is it? Is it going to work? Right? That’s the question. So those are the four parts. And what these mean, more specifically, is when we think about mind mastery. So all of you listening right now, there are things in your life you want to change, and within that place of focus, you have certain beliefs about your ability to create that change, you have regular thoughts, right?

Molly Claire 12:46
That go on repeat throughout the day. You know, let’s say, for example, you’re wanting to change the way you eat, the way you take care of your health, right? And maybe you’re having thoughts like, just one more won’t hurt, right? So these are kind of just those little sneaky thoughts, or you could have some bigger beliefs, like, I never, I’m never going to be able to create this change, right? And so, so I’m giving a couple examples there, just kind of as a sound bite here. But mind mastery is really about not just changing our mindset, or, you know, quote, unquote, fixing the way we think, but taking the time, you know, with my clients, to understand, how are you actually thinking about this? What are your beliefs within this and, and where can we see a gap in the way that you need to be thinking or believing to create this and and where you are now and then, and then, really bridging that gap? So that’s like the mind mastery piece of it.

Courtney Townley 13:41
And I hear in that too, like that exposure work, which is so hard, right? That that level of awareness of just exposing like, what is the current quality of your thinking? How are you like? What is the real estate you’re allowing to consume your brain? And that alone can be such a hard task, because it’s not usually fun to look at that stuff,

Molly Claire 14:01
Right? Yeah, and I want to speak to that. I think this is such a great point because, and I don’t have the exact quote in front of me, so I’m No, I know it’s not going to be perfect, but it’s so good, it’s worth saying, even if it’s not perfect, something along the lines of, and I can send this to you, you can, like, put in the shorts or whatever, right? But the degree to which we’re able to create change is is directly in proportion to the degree to which we’re willing to look at ourselves without running away. Yes, right?

Molly Claire 14:36
And so if we think about this, it’s like, the more I’m willing to look at what’s there without turning away or running away, the more I’m able to see what’s there and actually make choices within what I see, of course, and and my big fat opinion about this is that most of the time, the reason it’s hard for us to see what’s there as we look at that awareness is because of the way we judge or criticize. Ourselves for what we see. And so when it comes to be being aware of our thoughts and the quality of our thoughts, the best thing we can do is just really commit to this idea of, what if? I can look at all of my thoughts, all of my feelings and all of my patterns, and I can just see them as something that doesn’t define me, that isn’t me, that isn’t a reflection of how bad or stupid, or, you know, whatever I am, but truly, just let me be curious about what’s here. Because I think the more we can come with that, that compassionate curiosity, without judging ourselves, it becomes much easier to see what’s there, because it’s not personal.

Courtney Townley 15:40
It’s not personal, and it’s a fact that you cannot, literally cannot be curious and judgmental at the same time. So, right? You can be curious or you can be judgmental, but in any given moment, you can’t be both, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I love that

Molly Claire 15:54
Normal, right? It’s so normal that we that we’re critical of ourselves, or we think, Oh, I wish I weren’t thinking this, but that’s one of the things. When I’m with my clients, I’m like, this is the space where we say all the things we think and feel that we would never want anyone to know. And we’re gonna do it anyway, because what we’re gonna find is that, guess what? We’re all sharing the same thoughts and feelings that we wish weren’t there. It’s totally normal.

Courtney Townley 16:15
Yeah, of course, yeah. So what’s the second piece of this?

Molly Claire 16:19
Okay, so emotional resiliency. And I think a lot of times when we think about resiliency, we do kind of think about grit, right? You’re the grace and grit podcast. We think about this, like, kind of this toughness. And toughness is not that that’s how you speak about it. But I know when we think about that word, right, like this grit, like powering through, and that is definitely one piece of it, and also within that emotional resiliency.

Courtney Townley 16:46
What, what I’m really talking about is at for for us as human beings, for you as a listener, how, how connected are you with your own emotions and and really, and it’s it’s kind of hard to to put into, like a really concise way in this, in this conversation here, but just introducing this idea that paying more attention to how we feel and what our actual emotional needs are, and diving into our own emotional world is actually how we build the type of resilience that means that we truly are able to flow with the ups and downs of the emotions in our lives, and ultimately be able to have our emotions help us in our lives to move forward, rather than Getting stuck so often with them. So that’s kind of a little in a nutshell. What I what I teach with that, and I hear capacity in that, right?

Courtney Townley 17:48
Because I think that, yes, so many of us along the lifeline of growing up, we never learned how to be with certain emotions, and so there isn’t a lot of capacity for holding space for things that are just a part of the human experience, and it’s a huge problem when it comes to especially elevating our lives, because we’re going to face really uncomfortable things, and if we don’t have capacity to hold space for those things and also not make them mean terrible things, we probably aren’t going to make it very far down that pipeline.

Molly Claire 18:19
Yeah, yeah. And it impacts, you know, our own ability to be with our own emotions, which, by the way, is really hard. It’s a skill we have to learn. It’s a capacity we have to build, but it impacts the way we’re able to show up for others. You know, I like so my youngest daughter, she’s the last one at home. She’s 14. She has a lot of emotions up and down all the time. And I just, every day I think, thank goodness that I’ve expanded my own emotional capacity, because, because I’m able to be with myself, I’m able to be with her, I’m able to be regulated when I’m with her, so it matters, yeah, and what a gift to her, right? Because she’s co regulating with you. And so if you get amped up, it doesn’t it really just doesn’t help the situation. No, no, no, yeah, beautiful.

Molly Claire 19:03
Okay, third thing, yeah, which leads to the third one, right, nervous system. And so, and I definitely go much more into this in in my master coach training and so, because, you know, there’s so much to learn about the nervous system and but you know, the bottom line is that we all have a nervous system, and the nervous system is a backdrop, right? That is true. We can all agree on that we all have one. And despite all the different theories and approaches to nervous system regulation, we all have a nervous system, and the nervous system is the backdrop of all of our thoughts and emotions and and we need to really understand ourselves and get familiar with our different states that we can be in. What is the state of our nervous system?

Molly Claire 19:48
Because it matters, and the state of our nervous system influences the way we think, it influences the way we feel, and it influences our behavior. So that’s the third piece, right. How aware are you of your own nervous system? Dates, and how do you work with yourself in that yeah, how

Courtney Townley 20:02
do you learn how to respect your nervous system? Because, again, I think that’s just a conversation that it’s relatively new for most people in the modern world. You know, we’ve had nervous systems since the beginning of time. Yeah, we’re just now starting to honor the health of them and understand what a regulated nervous system actually looks like

Molly Claire 20:21
Yeah, and giving ourselves grace when we’re dysregulated and understanding it, right? Yes, so yeah. And then the fourth thing is these, you know, action focused strategy like strategies that work because, you know, you and I, we could go to Google or chat GPT and get a plan of action to do anything right now, right but, but a plan that works is one that brings in this more holistic view, this whole person view of our thoughts, our feelings and our nervous system and so and so. It’s like we can work with our thoughts, we can work with our emotions.

Molly Claire 20:58
We can work that with our nervous system and having a plan in place with tangibles, with with ways that we’re measuring our progress can also be extremely helpful, especially if part of that strategy is taking into account where we may get stuck with our thoughts, where we may get overwhelmed with our emotions And so so it kind of brings this tangible, concrete piece to to those of us who like something a little tangible and concrete too Absolutely.

Courtney Townley 21:30
And I think that you know, you speak to this concept of the high responsibility woman, which I definitely want you to touch on here. Yeah, yeah. But when I just hear that phrase right to me, it really speaks to the midlife woman, which is who this podcast is really geared towards. I work hugely with midlife women, and it’s such a fascinating time because we are living at the time where hormones are declining, which help us to manage stress, help us to soothe our nervous system, and we’re living at the time when we probably have more stress and responsibility than we’ve ever had in our life. So those two things are not really working with each other. They’re kind of working against each other, right?

Courtney Townley 22:06
And when you speak about strategy, my brain goes to, well, yeah, this is the reason why we have to be so realistic, and, I think, clear headed about the strategies we are using to try to create change, because it is, I think, largely, one of the very reasons why so many people fail is because they aren’t using strategy that honors the nervous system or honors their capacity in their daily life, because they, most women I work with have a lot going on, and I’m guessing that you do too, yeah,

Molly Claire 22:41
Yeah. And so most strategies are set up for someone who is going to be quote unquote perfect at everything, oh yes. And I’m never going to be tired or I’m never going to have a weak moment, and I’m going to do everything right, and I’m going to do it all in a way that makes absolutely no sense in relation to my capacity, right? Then I can succeed,

Courtney Townley 23:00
And I can do all things for all people at all times and never burn out. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. So tell us a little bit more about the high responsibility woman and how you speak to that.

Molly Claire 23:11
Yeah. So I think that and that term, like, when it hit me, I was like, that’s what it is. I think we hear about high achieving, you know, we hear about ambition, and those are all there, but the high responsibility woman, this is like a pattern I’ve seen over the years in so many, I would say, almost all of my clients, where as women, we are taking on responsibility to be everything to everyone, all the time. And and in fact, in I know we’re going to talk a little bit about this in my new book that I have co written with my master coaches, my chapter is about this very thing, this high responsibility woman.

Molly Claire 23:53
And I share some statistics in there about how much more responsibility mentally, emotionally and physically that women take on in comparison to men, and in particular, the load that we carry. The responsibilities we carry are typically those responsibilities that seem somewhat invisible. So they’re the things that someone needs to take responsibility for, but you don’t really see the it’s kind of like my, if my house is clean, no one’s gonna notice. If I don’t clean the house, everyone’s gonna notice, right?

Courtney Townley 24:29
So it’s that invisible labor, right? Like, yeah, is.

Molly Claire 24:33
It is. And the fact of the matter is that as women, we have been conditioned to believe that this is how we prove our worth, this is how we are a good woman. This is how we do a good job, how we are a good mom. And so it’s it’s kind of like this. We’ve been conditioned this way and truly living our lives in a way where we are taking on more than is reasonable, is what seems to be the safe. Way for us to live. Because if we think about it, if when I’m proving my worth, when I’m doing more, when I’m taking care of everyone, I’m getting all of this positive feedback, right?

Molly Claire 25:11
I’m getting all of these messages that this is how I do a good job, this is how I’m a good person, this is how I’m a kind person, and and so to say no, or to set boundaries, or to pull back and ask someone else to do more, requires us to risk someone being upset with us, rejection, questioning of if we’re a good woman, if we’re a good mom, if we’re whatever it is. And so I think this matters, because as high responsibility women taking on too much. First of all, we can’t do it. We shouldn’t do it anymore, and we need to understand that making that shift is going to require us to to have the support we need with our nervous system and having our own back to make those changes, because it’s not easy,

Courtney Townley 25:58
No, and it’s also that self validation, like if we’re always outsourcing our worth, which is what we do awesomely well as women, right? We’re looking to the world to tell us how worthy we are. That’s a huge problem. And learning how to in source that value, I think, is it is it’s a missing skill set across the board, and it’s such a powerful one. So I love that you’re speaking to that.

Courtney Townley 26:27
What would you say to a woman who might be listening, who is thinking like this, all sounds well and good, but it’s just too late for me, like I’m 50, 5060, years into my human experience, and I have all these habits, and I have this way that I’ve conducted my life, and it just really feels like a part of who I am. So I don’t know that this is possible for me. I don’t know if it’s possible for me to pursue the things that I actually want, like it sounds fine for you, but not for me. What would you say to them?

Molly Claire 27:01
So, and I know I do have, like, some resources for this very thing, so I can share those at the end, but right here, what I’ll say is, and this isn’t just something I’m saying because, oh, this sounds like a positive way of thinking, but genuinely, because I believe it, this point in your life is the absolute best and most perfect time to make this change, because you have so much wisdom, you have so many lessons learned and and potentially, you’re at the point in your life where you can see clearly that the way you’ve been doing things is not getting you where you want to be in terms of how you feel like we maybe we finally learned this lesson. I feel like I can say that for me, it’s like, Okay, how many times do I have to learn the lesson of, you know, burning out, overextending myself in order to say this is a no for me.

Molly Claire 27:59
And so what I would say is like, I’m here, and I’m just going to include Courtney in this too. We’re here in solidarity, saying you get to take the lessons. You get to see what hasn’t worked, and you get to decide that your well being gets to be the center of your universe from here on out. And if you’re struggling with that and that’s hard, then rely on us, right? Listen to this podcast. Rely on me, like, use the resources, because it’s worth it. I’ll tell you, I had a conversation with one of my master coaches just two days ago. She’s, she’s one of the authors in this book. She just had her 65th birthday. Love it, and she was telling me about and not, I know Not, not. This won’t appeal to all of you, but I just have to say this, because this was the highlight for me of our conversation. She was on a trip with her family and her grandkids, and she was swinging on a rope on the side of a river and going into the river with with her grandkids, which is just so fun. But you know what she said? Her name’s Jackie. What Jackie said is. She said, Here I am. I just turned 65 and she said the last two years of being immersed in this work has been the absolute highlight of my life. She said, I look at what I’m teaching people, and I’m living it. She said, I’m so authentic. I’m so alive. I feel so much joy. I can’t even believe it. And she has really demonstrated her ability to have her needs and well being be first, and to set limits, and she is just so wildly alive in her life. So that’s what I would say. That’s what I would say, now’s the time. Oh, you don’t have to swing on the rope to have it be the time, but what a visual, right, right?

Courtney Townley 29:42
I have a client. She’s 80, and she still works full time, and she still has a 10 year plan. And I’m just like, I mean, to me, it’s like, what’s the alternative? Like, you can live you’re at the midpoint of your life. A lot of people listening are at the midpoint of their life. What is the alternative? You stay in a space of the. Like, this is just it right from here, yeah? Like, we have arrived at the pinnacle of my existence, and it you’re not feeling all that great about it. That sucks, or you live from a space of, like you said earlier, what if, like, the what if that lights you up, the what if that puts more life into your life. Like, let’s go there. Yeah, I love that. Such a great such a great reminder.

Courtney Townley 30:25
So what is one thing that you could teach a listener right now, like one small, micro move that would maybe help them maybe find bravery in taking a step today towards what they want, or maybe even finding compassion with themselves so they can take a step with less suffering. What’s something that comes to mind for you around that?

Molly Claire 30:49
Yeah, so one little tip that you can do is pick a question. I call this like a power question, where it’s like something that’s going to spark curiosity and new ways of thinking and some examples of this, especially if you are working to kind of release, release some self criticism or improve your relationship with yourself. It can be something like, How can I be my own best friend? You can ask yourself things like, what do I really need right now? That is actually one of the most important questions I ever ask myself, because we are famous for for putting all of our needs last, not even realizing they’re there. So what do I really need right now is really powerful, you know. And a few other options are, how can I create what I want? Or what if today is the beginning of everything I ever wanted? So these are just some examples, right?

Molly Claire 31:53
But whatever it is, think of a question that inspires in you, possibility, creativity, that sense of feeling capable of whatever you want, just find a question, find the words that speak to you and put a reminder in your phone three times a day, and ask yourself that question over and over again. It will become a pattern. It will become a habit. It will become a permanent way of thinking that sends you on the trajectory of possibility and creation,

Courtney Townley 32:22
yeah, and the question invites your brain to find that evidence, right? Like, that’s the beautiful thing is, it’s like you’re giving your brain a little direction, like, let’s look for the gold today, rather than the pile of poo, because

Molly Claire 32:34
your brain is going to be searching for answers, right? Our brain is always scanning going on repeat, so get send your brain in a good direction and it leaves it will do wonders for you.

Courtney Townley 32:44
It will, it will. Okay, so tell us more about this book.

Molly Claire 32:48
Okay, so the book, oh my gosh, I have it right here. We just got the first copy, like a couple days ago. So exciting, yeah, it’s called she rises, insights and wisdom from the women of the masterful coach collective. So I have co authored this with 12 of my master coaches that I’ve trained and mentored. They are brilliant woman. Each woman has a chapter in the book where they’re sharing their personal experience and their expertise. The topics range from grief to nervous system regulation through doodling and other forms of, you know, of working with ourselves, dropping perfectionism.

Courtney Townley 33:26
And there is one chapter in there focused on men. Patty Kohler, one of my coaches. Her chapter is called, why I make grown men cry. And it she works with men and on their emotions. So, you know, the book really has not just something for everyone, and it has a midlife chapter too. Actually, Jackie wrote it, and it’s called Mirror, mirror on the wall. What the heck happened? That’s great. So it, not only does it have a chapter for everyone, but it really touches on the many experiences that we go through. And, you know, truly the the the fabric of this book, what’s woven throughout it really is the messages you know for you as a woman. How can you really find out who you are at a deeper level? How can you have your own back? How can you build the capacity within you to not just navigate life’s challenges, but to truly be able to rise up and feel alive and vibrant in your life. So that’s kind of the through thread. But the topics, the stories, are all fantastic, a little bit of humor, tears and everything in between.

Courtney Townley 34:35
All the things, I love it so much. Well, I know my listeners will appreciate this and probably be inspired to get the book. My community is actually called rumble and rise. So it’s it’s all right about the rumble in order to rise and kind of lift yourself up to that next level. So I’m sure this book, book will speak to them in a lot of powerful ways. So where can they find the book? Where can they find out more about you?

Molly Claire 34:57
Yeah, so the. Book. You can find it on, just on Amazon, but also so it’s called she rises insights and, and you’ll want to put in She Rises Molly Claire. That’ll help you find it, because there’s, like, a couple variations of, you know, title with so many books and, but you can find me at mollyclaire.com, Instagram, is Molly Claire Coaching. IG, LinkedIn, Molly Claire, if you just Molly Claire, Molly Claire, the internet. That’s it. The Internet. Molly Claire and I also have a book that I wrote about eight years ago, the Happy Mom Mindset. So that’s also on Amazon. But yeah, I’m just, I’m here in support of women and all the humans just feeling great about yourself and having the best life possible.

Courtney Townley 35:44
Oh, I love it so much. Oh, you’re such a joy to spend time with. Thank you so much for being here and sharing with listeners.

Molly Claire 35:50
Yeah, thank you. This is a great conversation. So honored to be here.

Courtney Townley 35:54
Thanks Molly.

Courtney Townley 36:01
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